Gritting in Cambridgeshire

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We need your opinions on Gritting

Gritting in Cambridgeshire during the recent freeze has been a mixture of the good, the bad and the indifferent. A page has been created for each District in the County, for you to leave your comments on how it went in your area. Lib Dem County Councillor Nigel Bell and our team will be collating all your experiences to the County’s Scrutiny Committee on March 25th – so that it’s all documented before we forget, lessons are learnt, and we ensure that it’s better next time!

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  Hunts Resident wrote @

A great initiative – lots of problems round here. I’ll be submitting a (long) list shortly!

  Elizabeth wrote @

I was certainly gritting my teeth at times when my three children had two snow days! I thought the roads were kept pretty well clear but I must admit I didn’t venture far. Pavements were a bit slippy but goodness the poor gritters can’t be expected to do everything.

  Geoff Grayton wrote @

THe biggest poblem for me is the icy pavements resulting from people cycling on the pavement whilst snow covers them and leaving a wet track which later freezes. Any pedestrian has to navigate very gingerly along the pavements especially as snow melts and later the water freezes.
Walking on the roads is often the safest route, but this can cause danger from impatient drivers who consider their territory has been invaded!
The pavements around Impington Vilage college are a prime example of where gritting footpaths as well as roads is needed. Another priority should be all bus routes so that the busses can keep run ning!

  Alice Jackson wrote @

I think cycle paths should be gritted, otherwise they are forced onto the narrower roads. My husband slid over on the cycle way on the B1049 over the A14 (Impington). He bruised his hip. My son and I fell flat on a side road before Christmas (and carried on sliding some distance). Other cyclists have had a worse time this winter and broken limbs.

  Frances Dolan wrote @

Just a word or two about my experiences in walking a short distance along Queen Edith’s Way. to visit a friend during the aftermath of the snow. On another occasion I went a short distance from my home in the road to the hospital, for a bus into town. The pathways were very treacherous as they appeared not to have been treated and had become impacted with ice. In some spots the ice was slow to clear, mainly on the shaded parts of Q.E.W. I therefore had to make part of the journey when/where it was safe to do so, by walking on the road, I was very afraid of falling over. My concern was for the elderly having to negotiate these conditions when making a journey to the Drs, chemists, post etc. It must also have been very difficult for cyclists using the cycle paths in these lethal conditions.

I support a review of what went wrong/right so recommendations and plans can be formulated for the future. As the climate changes, we will experience more frequent spells of adverse weather conditions and need to be prepared. I am pleased to read that any review would also take into consideration the potential damage to the environment by the use of great quantities of salt. I do have a memory that many years ago roads and pathways were treated with sand or fine grit/gravel which seemed to do the trick on the pavements. Perhaps this would now be considered too messy or expensive but it did last!

  Anna Bradnam wrote @

I came off my bike on the Jane Coston Cycle Bridge on Thursday 11 December at about 11pm, when returning to Milton. I’d been going very carefully as the surface was frosty but skidded as my back wheel went over the white line which divides the cycle lane from the pedestrian lane. Grazed my knees quite badly. (I was crossing the line to avoid the piles of broken glass under each lamp-post, where the lamps had been broken!)
But this bridge is a long span, so gritting ‘by hand’ would be difficult and time-consuming. Is there a mechanical means of distributing grit over such a distance?

  David Hembrow wrote @

We used to live in Cambridge, but emigrated to the Netherlands. Cycle paths here are gritted comprehensively when there is any chance at all of them freezing.

You can see several picture of the process, including newspaper clippings showing the extent of the gritting on a map on my blog.

Why Cambridge never has done the same thing is beyond me.

@Anna: Our council here has gritting machines which fit on all the cycle paths, over the bridges etc. No need for ineffective hand gritting.

@Elizabeth: No snow days here. My children cycled to school when it was -9 C, as did all the others. Here the gritters do manage to do everything (cycle paths first, then the roads). It’s really not such a big deal if it’s organised and properly funded. Take a look at the pictures.

  Peter Downes wrote @

This is a comment from one of my constituents:

Yet another accident on the Easton Road.

STILL NO GRITTING ! NO BRIDGE REPAIR! WATER ON ICE ON THE HILL WHEN
THE REST OF THE ROAD IS CLEAR! I HAVE INFORMED THE POLICE OF THE
HIGHWAYS NEGLIGENCE, PERHAPS THEY CAN DO SOME GOOD BEFORE A SERIOUS
INJURY OCCURS. IF THERE IS ANOTHER INCIDENT I SHALL INFORM THE THIRD
PARTY OF OUR E MAILS AND COUNCILS REQUESTS FOR GRITTING ON THIS VERY
DANGEROUS SITE, LETS HOPE THE CCC POLICIES HOLD UP TO THE TEST OF THE
COURTS WHEN AN INJURY IS CAUSED BY THEIR NEGLIGENCE.

  Peter Downes wrote @

The Head of one of the primary schools in my division wrote as follows:

Peter,

I believe you are our local councillor and in this respect would ask you to propose the gritting of Newtown Lane as and when the weather dictates. Our school (Overhills C P School) is situated at the end of Newtown Lane, Kimbolton which is off Station Road the main route to Catworth and the A14. The school coach for Longsands College parks in our car park each morning/afternoon to pick up/set down the Kimbolton children who attend that school.

Over the last two days Newtown Lane has been in a treacherous condition with snow and ice. The school coach, which must reverse in/out of our car park is having particular difficulty. This together with our parents who bring their children, by car to Overhills from many of the surrounding villages, including ‘over the border’ from Bedfordshire and Northants have supported us in keeping the school open but they have been alarmed that Newtown Lane has not been gritted.

I would be grateful if you could help us resolve this problem.

Regards

  Nat Johnson wrote @

My concern is that the major cycle routes with heavy cycle traffic became unusable, putting cyclist back onto the roads. I come in from Milton, using the Haling Way (towpath) and Riverside. The fine gravel surface of the towpath was fine on all but one day, but Riverside was impassable for nearly 10 days. I therefore used the Elizabeth Way bridge, where I cycled in the car tyre tracks. I’m a very confident cyclist but I’m sure that a number of people would be put off by this and possibly revert to their cars.

I tried Riverside on a couple of occasions just to see how bad it was. Interestingly, the surface of the new Riverside bridge didn’t seem too bad (it just dumped you down the ramp onto the ice-rink that was the road). Could that surface material see wider use in design and planning?

I appreciate that, in the same way as roads, it is not possible to grit all routes. It would therefore be good to identify the trunk routes into Cambridge that are in need of gritting. Riverside from the north, then I guess the Coton cycleway from the west and the Addenbrookes-Shelford link from the south. They should be gritted at the same time that trunk road routes are gritted.

  Emma Bell wrote @

Before Christmas I came off my bike and hurt myself badly enough to report my accident to the council. It happened on the wooden bridge on Stourbridge Common which becomes trecherous in the rain, frost, ice, dark, snow etc. I know of several other people who have had similar accidents whilst using these bridges.
So when the snow arrived in February I decided there was absolutley no point in trying to cycle, I walked instead – on the trecherous pavements.
I appreciate and like the fact the Cambridge has so many cycle paths, but with the amount of bikes that use them surely the council should be doing something to improve safety.

  Ursula wrote @

The roads alongside the river near the new Tesco bridge were not gritted and became very dangerous. The road froze over each night and was difficult to walk on, and impossible to cycle on. This is a major cycle route into town and should be gritted.

  Michaela wrote @

I cycle in to Cambridge from Cherry Hinton along the Tins foot/cycle path. It’s tricky to negotiate at the best of times as it is narrow and very bumpy. It is also very shady and the snow (which quickly became a sheet of ice) took about 5 days to clear.

The worst bit however, is the very steep bridge that goes over the railway line. I came across a man, 3 days after the snow, who had come off his bike trying to get up the bridge. He had a trailer on the back with a child in and couldn’t get enough grip on the ice to pull himself up off the ground let alone his bike and trailer. It took both of us to pull his bike over the bridge.

After that I started carry salt around to grit the areas that still hadn’t cleared.

  Suzanne wrote @

I cycle from King’s Hedges to Hills Road, along Milton Road, Elizabeth Way and East Road. In the latest snowy weather I had to cycle in the car tracks in the road (which didn’t impress any of the drivers) as the cycle paths were stacked full of snow. Despite the fact that this is a well-used route, for both cars and bikes, I had to walk a few parts of it, with my bike, and try to get along on the pavement. How can we be expected to lead a greener, healthier lifestyle when a simple 20 minute cycle in to work is impossible?

  Sylvia wrote @

If footpaths and cycle paths were cleared straight after snow fall then they would not be treacherous for so long with compacting through use and alternate melting and freezing.
But it is not just snow and ice that are treacherous to cyclists. In November I had to call an ambulance for a child whose bike slipped on wet leaves on Gresham Road. Then just a week later a colleague broke her collar bone when she came off her bike on Trumpington Road.
This is supposed to be Cycle City! But the cycle paths are in a very poor state.

  Sheila Eiloart wrote @

I cycle daily from Fen Road, Chesterton to town across Stourbridge Common, Riverside and Midsummer Common. As Riverside was not gritted during the freeze, it was extremely dangerous to cycle (and walk). However luckily I didn’t fall off the bike. Next day I opted to go by road. This was no better as the gritted roads were only gritted down the middle, and at the side of the road was a pile of snow and ice, making the roads narrower, and no real room for a cyclist and a lorry. So at best you got drenched with water by each car/bus passing, and it felt extremely dangerous when a bus overtook you with no room, and the option was to cycle into the snow and ice which covered at least a foot of the road nearest to the pavement. So the following day I reverted to Riverside which was still impacted with hard ice and still dangerous for both walking and cycling.
If we want to promote cycling and walking as an alternative to the car culture, I think money should be found and spent on gritting pavements and cycle tracks.
At the same time it should be realized that there are many cycle tracks (snow or no snow) which are too narrower for real safety. ie along Huntingdon Road is an example that where there are bollards in the centre of the road, the road narrows at this point, and large lorries and buses overlap the cycle tracks making it really scary for the cyclist.


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